Some Thoughts and
Observations on Production of H-minus
Ion Enriched-Water by Electrolysis
and answers to some
commonly-asked questions
site located at http://h-minus-ion.vpinf.com
Introduction
First,
for a recap, the term ERW stands
for "electrolyzed reduced water", or water which has been
electrochemically
modified by electrolysis to enrich it with the h-minus ion (in a caged,
protected form, of course, given its incredibly short mean free
lifetime
in many environments!) Further, the term "RW" stands for the
broader
category of "reduced water", which includes water which has had it's
ORP
shifted into the reducing region by any of a number means, only a small
percentage of which might involve electricity or
electrolysis. Therefore,
while the category of RW includes ERW, it also includes water which
exhibits
a high concentration of H-minus ions, but which was not produced by any
electrical means (such as electrolysis).
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Over the past
year, I have received
number of e-mails, at the rate of about 3 per week, asking me questions
about: - how to build a
home-made batch ionizer
to produce high-strength ERW
-
how the
writer can salvage or repair their
botched home water ionizer project
-
how to
make ERW without spending anywhere
from $529 to $4,00 for a commercially-made ionizer
- how
to make reduced water (RW) without
electricity
- whether some
various means (usually drops
sold by health foods mail-order vendors) will convert tap water to
"reduced
water"
- whether some
magic ceramic "laundry balls"
will produce RW for them easily and cheaply
This
article is an attempt to consolidate
some of my replies to those folks who have called or
written.
Please excuse any disorganization; I have not been able to take the
time
to edit this page perfectly. Thus, you may find some repeated
information
and some slightly "loose-thread" thoughts and sentences! I
apologize
for such things, but still feel that presenting this material to the
public
will answer in one place many of the questions which I have been asked
about such topics.
Notes
on "Poor Results" Obtained
With Kitchen Countertop Ionizers
In
response to many inquiries: an ORP
of about -150 using tap water from a Jupiter Technos or other
counter-top
ionizer is perfectly normal, and appropriate for the entire class of
countertop
tapwater ionizers, since the water is moving past the electrodes at a
fairly
fast rate, and since most tap water has little in the way of Ca, Mg or
Na ions to increase conductivity. I do have a souped-up
Technos Jupiter
which produces "alkaline" water with an ORP of about -820 mv, but it
does
not run on direct-supply tap water, but rather pre-treated water (0.1
g/liter
of NaCl added) from a 5 gallon reservoir the flow rate of which is
controlled
precisely by a digitally-controlled metering pump, usually at a flow
rate
of about 1.8 gallons per minute. However, the
Technos Jupiter had to
be beefed up to handle the increased current flow in the electrolysis
chamber,
due to overheating of the power supply. I needed to drill the
case
with ventilation holes and add two muffin fans to force air through the
device and especially over the circuit boards.
Notes
on Batch Water Ionizers, Electrodes,
Electrode Size, and Membranes
I
have never heard of anyone successfully
using porous cotton as a "membrane", although it appears that one
correspondent
has not been entirely unsuccessful. Here is my own critique
of common
home-brew water ionizer designs... First, what we
DO know about what does
work well: The electrodes need to have
a large
surface area, and to be only a small distance apart to reduce
resistance
and maximize current flow. For example, my commercial ($1,600
purchase)
batch water ionizer (alkaline water with ORPs approaching -1,050, and
an
ORP of -831 with 0.1 grams/liter of NaCl added, for 15-minute batches)
uses two parallel flat (Pt/Ti) electrodes which measure about 6" x 8",
and the spacing is only about 1/2" or less. The membrane is
just
a bit larger (add 3/8 inch of free space on each side) than those
dimensions,
is backed by rigid nylon screening to provide stability and rigidity,
and
effectively divides the large rectangular ionizing chamber into two
wells,
one anodic and one cathodic (taps at bottom for drainage.)
The membrane
measures about 6 1/2" x 8 1/2", and is some type of acid-treated
Gore-Tex
synthetic filtering membrane which has been shown experientially to
provide
good ionic isolation. The device seems to run 24 vDC at about
3 amps. I tend to use
large surface area electrodes
and membranes so that run time is 15 minutes or less, and the
commercial
products seem to do the same. Yes, you will lose some of the
H-minus
at a 12-hour run time, due to light, heat, oxygen dissolving in the
water
and reacting with some free H, and also steady-state escape of H2 into
the atmosphere, which will cause (vapor partial pressure and dielectric
rules) more H-minus to come out of dielectric interstitial water
"cages"
and revert to being plain 'ole H2 gas, dissolved.
For
the membrane, I find that most folks
use Gore-Tex or treated Gore-Tex, or some other off-brand substitute
PTFE
fabric with small pores. Gore-Tex is extremely pissy about
providing
even small samples measuring over 1" by 1" of their fabric; they claim
their refusal is due to contractual protections built into their
agreements
with their major customers. They are simply
uncooperative. I am told that one can go
to some well-supplied
fabric stores and purchase any of several varieties of nylon, PTFE or
"waterproof
but breathable synthetic" fabrics, and use these as the membranes,
backed
by some rigid screening to provide structural stability. My
own tests
indicate that several of these fabrics seem to work well. Of
course, some good lab supply houses
carry rolls of treated PTFE filter membrane fabric for ionic
separation,
but it is costly.
Some
Notes to Two Correspondents
Regarding Home-brew Water Ionizers
I
suspect that you are seeing poor results
because of all of the following factors:
- the surface
area of your electrodes may
be too small
- the two
electrodes may not be parallel
and closely spaced
-
the two
electrodes seem to be very far
apart
- the
cross-section or surface area of your
filter in the 1/2" pipe between cells effectively reduces the
"bottleneck
of conductivity" to an area of about 3/8" diameter
- the
cotton membrane may be leaking ions
past a certain threshold of osmotic concentration
(see
notes in paragraph below regarding
the cloudy water, degradation or regression of ORP and other
phenomena) Regarding your
observations of your
cell: Mineral buildup on cathode is not
unusual,
and this is why all commercial water ionizers use some form of
self-cleaning
after each cycle, which may involve either:
- running reverse
current thru the electrodes
for a few seconds to dislodge mineral deposits and clean
chamber
- reversing
chamber polarity each session
-- e.g. the left chamber is the cathodic chamber one session and it is
the anodic chamber the next session. This also keeps the
membrane
from "aging" due to mineral and ionic clogging.
Cloudy
water after prolonged run time:
likely due to concentration of Na/Mg/Ca/etc. ions and even other
impurities
drawn into the cathodic chamber. I suspect that
the main reason you noted
so little increase in current flow with larger electrodes was the small
effective surface area of the membrane.
The
ORP will eventually "fall off" (regress
toward positive) after prolonged run times due to all the
following: -
depletion
of "electrolyte ions" such as
Na, Ca, Mg in the water, and reduction in current flow
- constant
escape of hydrogen gas into the
atmosphere from cathodic water
- migration
of "cross-contaminating" ions
and gases across an imperfect filter membrane
- eventual
increase in surface resistance
of metal electrodes due to mineral deposits, resulting in decrease in
current.
- eventual
degradation and "clogging" of
filter membrane, due to deposits of minerals and other
impurities
- eventual
degradation of filter membrane
due to electro-mobilized formation of current "bridges" and "porosity"
leaks (aka tunneling)
Lastly,
be very suspicious of your ORP
meter, at least the (electrode) ORP probe. They tend to degrade after
an
hour or two of use, and this degradation results in vastly attenuated
ORP
readings in the negative range. In other range, extreme
negative
ORP readings will regress toward the +300 range, and so a bucket of
water
with an ORP of -800 may show only -190 on the ORP meter until the probe
is cleaned properly -- see my website for notes on how to do this!
Once
your design is successful and stable,
you should not need run times of more than 10 to 20 minutes per batch.
I
have several friends, each trained
scientists with massive experiential background in electricity,
electronics
and engineering, who have built massive bulk generators of H-minus-ion
charged water using large rectangular 30-gallon or 40-gallon (in one
case,
200 gallon) plastic-walled wells, divided in the center by a commercial
laboratory-quality PTFE fabric membrane on rigid plastic screening, and
using massive parallel platinum/titanium electrodes, with up to 210 vDC
as the ionizing current. Of course, this massive DC voltage
could
kill or maim someone in an instant, so massive and multi-layered
automatic
safety disconnects are needed to protect the operator during those
"thoughtless"
moments which we all experience. Example:
I once, at age 13, grabbed
a hot power supply wire (in my UHF radio research laboratory) carrying
+1,400 vDC [at up to 1 ampere continuous] with my right hand, while
holding
a grounded metal bar with my left hand. It almost killed
me.
I simply was not paying attention! If
you decide to use voltages over
24 vDC, please be CAREFUL! YES, PLEASE BE
VERY CAREFUL! One
above-mentioned friend who has built
massive batch water ionizers almost died as a result of a massive shock
received when he accidentally grabbed the two wet and HOT electrodes
with
his bare wet (salted water) hands, and spent months with painful burns
as a result. Fortunately, he fell (was thrown) backwards by
the convulsive
effect on his arms, and the force pulled the DC power cables out of the
power supplies, disconnecting the current as his head hit the floor and
he was knocked unconscious (for 20 minutes). Now, 10 years
later,
he has some serious cardiac arrythmias as a result of damage to his
heart
from the current. The 0.35 grams
of NaCl per gallon of
H20: about 1/4 to 1/3 of a 1/8th teaspoon kitchen measuring
spoon.
I usually try to find something like a tiny spoon which holds about 350
mg, to make it easy to shovel out the salt.
ORP
and curves. As I recall,
ORP is a semi-logarithmic scale, and each change of 59 mv in ORP
indicates
a 10-fold change in free electrons (antioxidant power), and each 118 mv
change indicates a 100-fold change. This is all based on the
Nernst
equation (for redox) and the work of derivative authors since then who
have modified the Nernst equation. I have an Excel sheet
somewhere
showing all this ORP versus free-electrons relationship.
By
the way, I was an EE at one time
in my life, but have switched careers many times since then.
The
above topic leads us to... . . .
Notes
on Some Commercial Laboratory
Hydrogen Generators Which Use Electrolysis
I
have in my laboratory a commercial
($9,000 new) hydrogen generator which uses a pressurized electrolytic
well
(heavily-doped water in a special mesh polymer electrode, constantly
refilled
under high pressure via high-pressure pump from a water reservoir) to
produce
the pressurized hydrogen gas, and it uses for the electrolyzing current
a 24-volt DC supply which can source 38 amperes continuously.
Phew!
This monster produces about 300 ml per minute of hydrogen gas, at up to
120 psi above ambient atmospheric pressure.
I
have in my lab another ($11,000 new)
commercial hydrogen generator which uses pure platinum coaxial
electrodes
in a coaxial bath of heavily-doped (sodium hydroxide) water.
The
H gas percolates thru the central hollow negative platinum electrode to
escape into a central tube and, after filtering, supplies pressurized
hydrogen
gas at up to 100 psi above atmospheric. Runs 24 volts DC at about 17
amps.
Some
General Questions and Answers
About Reduced Water and the Physics Thereof
You
asked: Could you tell me what does the
H-
ion looks like? To be negative it must have one proton and
two electrons,
right? How can it be stable?
My
answer: The H-minus ion is a proton
with 2
electrons, and, as related on my website, it was previously thought
that
it primarily existed in stable form at high temperatures in plasmas
(you
know, super heated gases which are radiant) and in stars. It
was
thought that its half-life at STP on earth's surface was only on the
order
of femtoseconds, due to reactivity. However -- and there is
more
on my H-minus website about this -- it has been discovered that
apparently
singlet H and H-minus can indeed be stable at STP in the biosphere, in
any of several ways (see my website). In the water, it
appears that
the H- forms clusters or cages of water around it, forming structured
but
amorphous water clusters, and that the cages protect it until a
biological
molecule wants the electron. In silica (as
in MegaH, aka MegaH-™
) and certain other molecules which are already in a particular
amorphous
crystalline configuration, H-minus can also exist and remain protected
for a long time in stable form, forming a hydride known as a metallic
dielectric
interstitial hydride, whereas the really reactive and nasty hydrides
such
as LiH and CaH store H-minus as a metallic interstitial hydride.
Question:
As you generate high negative
ORP what happens to the pH level in the alkaline water?
Well,
electrolysis of water is only
one of several ways to create reduced water high in H-minus ions and
their
associated water cages or clusters, and with extremely negative ORP,
and
it is about the only method which might involve significant
shift
of pH to the strongly alkaline region due to concentration of alkaline
mineral ions. (The other methods are largely proprietary, and I can
reveal
little further information about them. However, to tantalize
you
and perhaps tease your mind into making some intuitive
shifts, I
can tell you that I have in my kitchen (and more in my lab) an ordinary
1/2 gallon amber jug, with no electrical or electronic devices attached
at all. I add tap water with an ORP of perhaps +390 to the jug, and the
next morning, the water has an ORP of -220, and tests reveal that the
water
has strong reducing powers, which is really a better indicator of
presence
of the H-minus ion than is ORP alone.) To learn more about
non-electrical means
of producing RW, you may wish to see my page on this site entitled Means
and Methods of Modifying the ORP and Particularly, the Reducing
Potential,
of Water Nonetheless,
when performing electrolysis
to produce "ionized" electrolyzed reduced water (ERW), the shift to
alkaline
pH of the reduced water is essentially an accidental corollary, and not
inextricably linked to concentration of H-minus ions. Having
said
that, in general it is true that pH continues to increase as we drive
the
ORP of the reduced water more and more into the negative region when
reducing
water via electrolysis. For example, I have here several
devices
which produce electrolyzed reduced water (ERW) with an ORP of about
-830
mv. (some even ranging to -920 mv.), and at an ORP of -830, the pH
usually
measures in the range of 11.2 to 12.2. However, see notes
below for
further information on this! Question: i.e.
at -150mv the pH may be
around 8.5 as the ORP increases; what is the correlation, i.e. does
the pH just continue or does it stabilize?
Answer:
Increases only slowly. See text and
examples above. Further, if this high pH were an issue of
concern, one could find ways of scavenging the metal (Zn, Ca, Na, Mg,
etc.)
ions which are producing the high pH, if desired, or of neutralizing
them. Question: If so
how does the water reach
a saturation point with the pH and continue to increase the ORP in the
negative direction. I am missing the link between how the pH increases
( I believe it has to do with the mineral content in the water to start
with ) and the ORP is splitting of OH- as more electrons are introduced
into the water through the electrolysis process?
Answer:
In "traditional" electrolysis of water
through a membrane to produce reduced water, it is commonly believed
that
the pH increases due to a concentration of the ions of certain minerals
(Ca, Mg, Zn, etc.) which are produced and then trapped in the reducing
cell by the membrane. Question: The
reason I am asking this
is that if the pH does increase with increasing negative
ORP then it can't be beneficial
to drink water with a very high pH,
even though the ORP is highly negative.
Answer:
For most people, it does not seem to
be an issue. The pH is really not that serious an issue, even
for
human consumption, as there are several factors to consider:
- the pH of most
such reduced water is what
is called "poorly buffered" -- it has little "staying power" or
"resilience",
and is relatively fragile; it will drop easily when it hits organic
material
such as GI tract contents
-
pH is a
logarithmic scale, while, if I
recall correctly, ORP is a semi-logarithmic scale, so, even with
conventional
water ionizer technology, the pH does NOT increase as quickly as ORP
changes
- perhaps you are
letting high pH numbers
in the 11 or 12 region scare you. To add perspective, please
consider
that humans regularly consume liquids which exhibit an acidic pH every
bit as far removed from neutral pH (7.0) as the alkalinity of even
strongly
electrolyzed reduced water. For example, some
commercial cola
drinks exhibit a pH of about 2.0, which is 5 units below neutral pH
(7.0),
and some of these cola drinks exhibit a pH which is much more strongly
buffered than the alkaline pH of most ERW. Please remember
that some
folks in Western societies consume a gallon or more of such liquids
daily,
without much immediate obvious ill effect. I am told that the
same
(acidic pH phenomena) is true of some black coffee drinks and a few
other
commercially-available drinks as well.
I
have friends who regularly drink 1/2
gallon or more daily of undiluted ERW with an ORP of -825 and a pH of
about
11.9 to 12.0. Question: I was
reading about your souped-up
Jupiter Technos ionizer and am interested in building a
unit to produce some water with an
ORP in the range of -700 to -900mv. We don't have any machines in the
country
that can do this that are available to buy. Those that we can import
are
far too expensive and out of our price range so we are going to have a
go at making our own. Do you have any more notes on the finer detail of how you
went about modifying the Jupiter. This will allow us to do some
experimenting
of our own. Then we can set the record straight in our own minds.
Answer:
What country are you in? In the USA,
one can buy (see my website for the link to Ion and Light in SF) a
Japanese
Super Oxide Labo for about $1,600, and it will produce over 1/2 gallon
each batch of highly reduced water with an ORP of -831. The
smaller
Super Oxide Mini sells for about $1,200. I recently sold one
in slightly-used
condition for $600. I souped up the
Jupiter Technos (I have
mentioned some of this on the website) and created a new system by:
- adding
ventilation holes and a muffin cooling
fan to the cabinet to prevent overheating
- switching
the water input from the flow
diverter on the faucet to a 6-gallon reservoir (easily refilled by hose
or bucket) which holds water which has had sea salt added at the rate
of
0.10 g/liter.
- a valve at the
bottom of the reservoir
feeds a laboratory-quality digitally controlled metering pump (cost
$1,000)
which can precisely regulate the water flow to the Jupiter from 0.01
gallons
per minute to 20 gallons per minute.
- here
is also a variety of check valves,
flow control valves, and many feet of vinyl tubing.
I
originally tried using a cheaper pump
and a cheap plumber's pressure valve, but was driven to distraction by
the pressure fluctuations of the system and finally reverted to the
metering
pump. With this
device, I can produce strong
ERW (ORP of -800 mv.) at the rate of about 2 gallons per
minute. Unfortunately,
if you read my description
of what I did to the Jupiter Technos closely, you will see that the
total
cost is about $2,000, which is well more than the purchase price for a
Super Oxide Labo commercial batch water ionizer (about
$1,600). Further,
it takes up a good part of my kitchen and kitchen wall, and looks like
a Rube Goldberg invention. Question: Do
you recommend any tests
that we should have done with our blood etc prior
to us testing the effects of ERW
our health? Answer:
Don't know anything about blood or
anything, don't know about tests either.
Question:
Also what do you think of
the "Ultra-Super Water Filter" on the market. They are trying to
discredit
the water ionizers on the market. Do they have any merit in
what
they are saying? Answer:
Some of the folks pushing distilled
water and hyper-clean water regularly knock tap water, well water and
ionized
water, and in fact, all water except their distilled water.
That
is their business. Use your mind, heart and intuition and
make your
own choices. I cannot and will not do this for you.
Question:
A question for you.
If water contains Silica Hydride (as well as Potassium, Calcium and
Magnesium)
would this hide/disguise the true negative ORP potential of the water?
Your
answer would be appreciated. Answer:
You
have asked a fascinating question.
Why? Well, here goes: First, when you
say "silica hydride",
do you mean: 1)
the silica hydride
which was know only to primarily industrial chemists until now, and
which
is a rather reactive gas, which is an interstitial metallic hydride
OR 2)
the substance developed by
Patrick Flanagan which also bears the same name, but which is a solid
in
a small colloidal form, and which is an interstitial dielectric
hydride,
and has really been recognized by the scientific community in the past
19 months, and acknowledged in the scientific literature as being a
real
dielectric hydride with antioxidant nutritional properties?
Second, the only "silica hydride"
of the latter type (2) above available to consumers is already
"charged"
with the negative hydrogen ion, and thus, when exposed to water, will
slowly
start releasing it to maintain ionic equilibrium and gas pressure
equilibrium
(basic laws of physics and chemistry). When silica hydride
(type
2) is depleted of the h-minus ion, then it is no longer silica hydride,
but silica in a colloidal form, with perhaps a small amount of calcium,
magnesium and other trace substances present as well.
So,
if the silica hydride it truly the
stuff mentioned as Type 2 above, then it will tend to DONATE H- ions to
the surrounding aqueous environment (if any), unless the ORP of water,
due to the H-minus ion and H-singlet forms, is WEAKER (smaller negative
ORP) than the equilibrium point for "fresh" silica hydride, which is
about
-880 mv. However, if the
ORP (due to H-minus
ion and H-singlet forms) of a surrounding aqueous environment is
STRONGER
(larger negative ORP) than the equilibrium point of silica hydride, then
conceivably the silica hydride might accumulate even more of the
H-minus
ion, thus depleting the ORP.
Of
course, if you put "depleted" silica
hydride, which is really now only silica in colloidal form (in a
special
buckeyball state) in water which has a strongly negative ORP due to
presence
of H-ion and singlet atomic H (rather than a strongly negative ORP due
to dissolved H2 gas, which is also a possibility), then the
nano-colloidal
silica , if certain other conditions are met, will start to "grab" some
of the free H- ions and slowly, molecules of nano-colloidal
silica
will be converted to silica hydride (type 2).
So,
FINALLY, the answer to your question,
bearing in mind the qualifications above, is: NO,
silica hydride (type 2), when present
in water, will not usually mask the true negative ORP of water, but
rather,
will contribute strongly to making the water even more reduced (more
strongly
negative ORP). Further, however, the silica hydride (type 2),
will
tend to act as a "reservoir" of H-ion, thus serving to "replenish" or
"recharge"
the strongly negative ORP of the water (or drive it even more
negative),
until the H-ion in the silica hydride is depleted or "used up".
Question:
(next, the above writer asked.
. . . .) The reason I have asked the
previous
question is that we are getting some very amazing results with our
water
product, reduced to a 43 dyne average surface tension, yet with an ORP
from 130 to +50 or so depending on source.
Darkfield (blood profile analysis)
and tradition blood antioxidant tests, indicates that our water product
is a very strong antioxidant.
Answer:
First, tell me what you mean by "our
water product", and next, it is highly possible for water with even a
high
ORP to have strong clustering properties which would reduce the surface
tension, although less likely than for water with a more reducing
ORP. As far as the
antioxidant possibilities
of "your water product ", here are some points to consider:
- improved
results on darkfield analysis
do not necessarily mean anything in terms of antioxidant properties
(indeed,
according to the scientific literature, it does not mean tat at
all!)
Rather, such darkfield results will usually reflect the "clustering"
and/or
electrostatic properties of a product.
- QUESTION:
what specifically do you mean
by "tradition blood antioxidant tests". You would need to be able to
document
assays performed with traditional chemical and biochemical tests to
assess
antioxidant activity before you could make such a
claim. You
will note that Patrick Flanagan, who developed MegaH (MegaH-)
™, spent a long time working with scientists in private and university
laboratories
to thoroughly document the antioxidant properties of MegaH™
via traditional test of antioxidant activity in both chemical and
biochemical
life-related realms. These tests even included protection of
cells
in vitro against strong oxidizer insults, and the successful conversion
of NAD to NADH by MegaH™.
This is all available
in literature available to the public.
- Likewise,
the scientists in Japan who studied
the antioxidant properties of ERW conducted numerous
scientific tests
using standard assays of antioxidant activity in both chemical and
life-oriented
biochemical reactions.
-
a
product does not need to have a strongly
negative ORP to have nutritional antioxidant properties in biochemical
systems. Witness vitamin C, vitamin E, beta carotene, citric
acid,
and a host of other bio substances with higher molecular
weights.
Indeed, a number of these substances named herein show a pretty
strongly
positive ORP, and yet, in certain specific biochemical situations, will
indeed donate an electron to a molecule ( a free radical) needing
one.
- Conversely, a
strongly negative ORP does
not necessarily say anything at all about antioxidant properties. It is
OFTEN correlated to antioxidant properties, but not always.
Some
examples follow:
1)
If you bubble hydrogen gas
(H2) from a tank through water, the ORP will drop to about -690 or even
further. However, any standard assay of chemical or
biochemical antioxidant
properties will show ZERO antioxidant activity.
2) On the other hand, ERW ionized
water and water containing MegaH (aka MegaH-) not only show a strongly
negative
ORP, but also strong antioxidant effects in both chemical and
biochemical
(life-type) reactions 3)
bear in mind that an ORP in
the range of +50 to +150, as you cite, still indicates that there may
be
some a modest quantity of H-ions present (or, of course, dissolved H2
gas),
and if so, will indeed be able to exhibit some antioxidant
properties.
If, on the other hand, the low positive ORP is due to dissolved H2 gas,
then there will be little in the way of free H- ions, and little
antioxidant
activity. - Just as some
substances with strongly positive
ORP are highly toxic (witness chlorine bleach and hydrogen peroxide),
so
it is true that some substances with strongly negative ORP are toxic as
well. For example, dissolve sodium hydroxide in water
(CAREFULLY!
or YOU WILL BE BURNED OR BLINDED!), and the ORP becomes modestly
negative,
but yet it is toxic due to its alkalinity. Another great
example
is lithium hydride. This substance shows a strongly negative
ORP,
and yet is incredibly toxic.
- the
ORP correlation with antioxidant activity
tends, among other limitations and qualifications, to apply only to
substances
with very small molecular weight. Thus, water and the
negative hydrogen
ion may be in the ballpark, but larger molecules with molecular weight
in the hundreds or thousands (vitamin C, vitamin E, citric acid, beta
carotene,
alpha lipoic acid, pycogenol) hold onto their free electron in another
way, and so it is no apparent or available in a simple aqueous
solution.
Lastly, in
light of your earlier letter,
some further comments on silica hydride of the type (let's call it
SHD2)
found in MegaH (aka MegaH-)™
: -
SHD2 is
incredibly hard to make.
No one in the world has succeeded other than Patrick Flanagan (who is
admittedly
a genius as well as being highly intuitive), although some Japanese
scientists
at major universities in Japan have spent millions of dollars trying to
do so. Not only do the particles of SHD2 have a very small (nano)
size, but they have a unique new buckeyball structure, never before
seen
in silica, which allows them to grab h-ions and store them.
- normal
silica, including commonly available
silica products such as the various colloidal silicas available from
industrial
vendors, do NOT exhibit any of the properties of Patrick Flanagan's
nano-colloidal
silica. Normally available commercial silica does not have
any nano-colloidal
properties nor a buckeyball structure, nor will it uptake h-minus-ions
in a reversible fashion as dielectric hydride. Thus, if you
take
normal colloidal silica, or even silica in any other form, whether from
a health food store shelf, or from an industrial supplier, you cannot
get
it to store H-minus ion reversibly as Flanagan has done with
SHD2.
- anyone wishing
to claim in either the health
food or scientific arena that their product does include silica hydride
of the form which I reference as SHD2, would need to be able to fully
substantiate
their claim with lab tests from independent physical
chemistry laboratories,
and those tests would need to include: NMR, ESR, assay with negative
ion
electrodes, electron microscopy to demonstrate the buckeyball nature
and
nano-colloidal size, along with the antioxidant assays mentioned
earlier.
- I have
encountered some folks who have
purchased commercially available colloidal silica (the type used in the
foods industry for packaging), mixed it with traces of potassium,
magnesium
and calcium (likely because they also saw these ingredients listed
along
with colloidal silica on the label of a bottle of MegaH
(aka MegaH-)™
!), and then assumed that this somehow "created" silica hydride, of the
type which I reference above as SHD2 (the one marketed by Patrick
Flanagan
as MegaH®.)
I suspect that
you have some kind of water
product which you are trying to prove has antioxidant
activity. My
point is that your product may well have some beneficial properties
(which
you can demonstrate via appropriate tests, both in vitro and in vivo),
but those beneficial properties may not be antioxidant activity, but
rather
in other realms entirely. Those realms can include:
- clustering with
beneficial cluster size
-
reduced
surface tension of water
-
removal
of certain toxins from water
- presence
of solvated electrons
-
presence
of free hydrated cluster electrons
- presence
of any of several beneficial "subtle
energies"
- presence of any
of a number of beneficial
substance such as vitamins or minerals, but you have indicated that
your
water is relatively free of things other than water, so... .
.
(end of my reply to the person
who inquired) Non-Electrolytic
Means of Producing
Reduced Water (RW) Now, a teaser:
there are actually NUMEROUS
other ways of creating H-minus ions in water, and without
electricity/electrolysis,
and often without the artificial corollary of high alkalinity as
well.
These methods yield water commonly referred to as "reduced water", or
RW.
However, many of these methods really cannot get the H-minus
concentration
to a place where the resultant ORP is much stronger than -300
mv.
There are a few that can go much further.
The
Magic Jugs There is one means
I might mention....
I have some proprietary and developmental "Magic Jugs" here in my
laboratory
and in my kitchen, which use no electricity at all, and no complicated
devices. These are amber glass 1/2 gallon jugs, with a
special active
substance in the bottom. I fill the jugs with tap water
(non-chlorinated),
and in 24 hours, I have reduced water (RW) with an ORP of -435 or
lower.
If you wish to learn more about the magic jugs, please click
here to go to a page on this site with more details.
If
you wish to know more about this
topic in general, you may wish to check out my page on this site
entitled Means and Methods
of Modifying the ORP and Particularly, the Reducing Potential, of Water
On
Breathing Gas Enriched With the
H-minus Ion I created a
device a few years ago which
allowed me to breathe, as 8% of my air intake, a mixture of H2 and
H-minus
gas (the H-minus gas was stabilized in a gaseous cage via a proprietary
method.). If I breathed the mix for about 20 minutes, being
careful
to avoid sparks (coulda been an explosion!), the effects were very
interesting,
and included a sense of well-being. Three hours later, the ORP of my
urine
was in the -450 mv range. Ten hours later, it was still at
-380 mv.
I know only one other person who has been foolhardy enough to do this
experiment;
he is a fellow researcher and very wild.
MegaH (aka MegaH-)™ is a
registered trademark owned by Flantech Group.
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