Some Thoughts and
Observations on
Production of H-minus
Ion Enriched-Water
by Electrolysis
and answers to some
commonly-asked questions
site located at http://h-minus-ion.vpinf.com
Introduction
First, for a recap, the term ERW stands
for "electrolyzed reduced water", or water which has been electrochemically
modified by electrolysis to enrich it with the h-minus ion (in a caged,
protected form, of course, given it's incredibly short mean free lifetime
in many environments!) Further, the term "RW" stands for the broader
category of "reduced water", which includes water which has had it's ORP
shifted into the reducing region by any of a number means, only a small
percentage of which might involve electricity or electrolysis. Therefore,
while the category of RW includes ERW, it also includes water which exhibits
a high concentration of H-mins ions, but which was not produced by any
electrical means (such as electrolysis).
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Over the past year, I have received
number of e-mails, at the rate of about 3 per week, asking me questions
about:
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how to build a home-made batch ionizer
to produce high-strength ERW
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how the writer can salvage or repair their
botched home water ionizer project
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how to make ERW without spending anywhere
from $529 to $4,00 for a commericaly-made ionizer
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how to make reduced water (RW) without
electricity
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whether some various means (usually drops
sold by health foods mail-order vendors) will convert tap water to "reduced
water"
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whether some magic ceramic "laundry balls"
will produce RW for them easily and cheaply
This article is an attempt to consolidate
some of my replies to those folks who have called or written.
Please excuse any disorganization; I have not been able to take the time
to edit this page perfectly. Thus, you may find some repeated information
and some slightly "loose-thread" thoughts and sentences! I apologize
for such things, but still feel that presenting this material to the public
will answer in one place many of the questions which I have been asked
about such topics.
Notes on "Poor Results" Obtained
With Kitchen Countertop Ionizers
In response to many inquiries: an ORP
of about -150 using tap water from a Jupiter Technos or other conter-top
ionizer is perfectly normal, and appropriate for the entire class of countertop
tapwater ionizers, since the water is moving past the electrodes at a fairly
fast rate, and since most tap water has little in the way of Ca, Mg or
Na ions to increase conductivity. I do have a souped-up Technos Jupiter
which produces "alkaline" water with an ORP of about -820 mv, but it does
not run on direct-supply tap water, but rather pre-treated water (0.1 g/liter
of NaCl added) from a 5 gallon reservoir the flow rate of which is controlled
precisely by a digitally-controlled metering pump, usually at a flow rate
of about 1.8 gallons per minute.
However, the Technos Jupiter had to
be beefed up to handle the increased current flow in the electrolysis chamber,
due to overheating of the power supply. I needed to drill the case
with ventilation holes and add two muffin fans to force air through the
device and especially over the circuit boards.
Notes on Batch Water Ionizers, Electrodes,
Electrode Size, and Membranes
I have never heard of anyone successfully
using porous cotton as a "membrane", although it appears that one correspondent
has not been entirely unsuccessful. Here is my own critique of common
home-brew water ionizer designs... . . .
First, what we DO know about what does
work well:
The electrodes need to have a large
surface area, and to be only a small distance apart to reduce resistance
and maximize current flow. For example, my commercial ($1,600 purchase)
batch water ionizer (alkaline water with ORPs approaching -1,050, and an
ORP of -831 with 0.1 grams/liter of NaCl added, for 15-minute batches)
uses two parallel flat (Pt/Ti) electrodes which measure about 6" x 8",
and the spacing is only about 1/2" or less. The membrane is just
a bit larger (add 3/8 inch of free space on each side) than those dimensions,
is backed by rigid nylon screening to provide stability and rigidity, and
effectively divides the large rectangular ionizing chamber into two wells,
one anodic and one cathodic (taps at bottom for drainage.) The membrane
measures about 6 1/2" x 8 1/2", and is some type of acid-treated Gore-Tex
synthetic filtering membrane which has been shown experientially to provide
good ionic isolation. The device seems to run 24 vDC at about 3 amps.
I tend to use large surface area electrodes
and membranes so that run time is 15 minutes or less, and the commercial
products seem to do the same. Yes, you will lose some of the H-minus
at a 12-hour run time, due to light, heat, oxygen dissolving in the water
and reacting with some free H, and also steady-state escape of H2 into
the atmosphere, which will cause (vapor partial pressure and dielectric
rules) more H-minus to come out of dielectric interstitial water "cages"
and revert to being plain 'ole H2 gas, dissolved.
For the membrane, I find that most folks
use Gore-Tex or treated Gore-Tex, or some other off-brand substitute PTFE
fabric with small pores. Gore-Tex is extremely pissy about providing
even small samples measuring over 1" by 1" of their fabric; they claim
their refusal is due to contractual protections built into their agreements
with their major customers. They are simply uncooperative.
I am told that one can go to some well-supplied
fabric stores and purchase any of several varieties of nylon, PTFE or "waterproof
but breathable synthetic" fabrics, and use these as the membranes, backed
by some rigid screening to provide structural stability. My own tests
indicate that several of these fabrics seem to work well.
Of course, some good lab supply houses
carry rolls of treated PTFE filter membrane fabric for ionic separation,
but it is costly.
Some Notes to Two Correspondents
Regarding Home-brew Water Ionizers
I suspect that you are seeing poor results
because of all of the following factors:
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the surface area of your electrodes may
be too small
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the two electrodes may not be parallel
and closely spaced
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the two electrodes seem to be very far
apart
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the cross-section or surface area of your
filter in the 1/2" pipe between cells effectively reduces the "bottleneck
of conductivity" to an area of about 3/8" diameter
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the cotton membrane may be leaking ions
past a certain threshold of osmotic concentration
(see notes in paragraph below regarding
the cloudy water, degradation or regression of ORP and other phenomena)
Regarding your observations of your
cell:
Mineral buildup on cathode is not unusual,
and this is why all commercial water ionizers use some form of self-cleaning
after each cycle, which may involve either:
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running reverse current thru the electrodes
for a few seconds to dislodge mineral deposits and clean chamber
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reversing chamber polarity each session
-- e.g. the left chamber is the cathodic chamber one session and it is
the anodic chamber the next session. This also keeps the membrane
from "aging" due to mineral and ionic clogging.
Cloudy water after prolonged run time:
likely due to concentration of Na/Mg/Ca/etc. ions and even other impurities
drawn into the cathodic chamber.
I suspect that the main reason you noted
so little increase in current flow with larger electrodes was the small
effective surface area of the membrane.
The ORP will eventually "fall off" (regress
toward positive) after prolonged run times due to all the following:
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depletion of "electrolyte ions" such as
Na, Ca, Mg in the water, and reduction in current flow
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constant escape of hydrogen gas into the
atmosphere from cathodic water
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migration of "cross-contaminating" ions
and gases across an imperfect filter membrane
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eventual increase in surface resistance
of metal electrodes due to mineral deposits, resulting in decrease in current.
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eventual degradation and "clogging" of
filter membrane, due to deposits of minerals and other impurities
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eventual degradation of filter membrane
due to electro-mobilized formation of current "bridges" and "porosity"
leaks (aka tunneling)
Lastly, be very suspicious of your ORP
meter, at least the (electrode) ORP probe. They tend to degrade after an
hour or two of use, and this degradation results in vastly attenuated ORP
readings in the negative range. In other range, extreme negative
ORP readings will regress toward the +300 range, and so a bucket of water
with an ORP of -800 may show only -190 on the ORP meter until the probe
is cleaned properly -- see my website for notes on how to do this!
Once your design is successful and stable,
you should not need run times of more than 10 to 20 minutes per batch.
I have several friends, each trained
scientists with massive experiential background in electricity, electronics
and engineering, who have built massive bulk generators of H-minus-ion
charged water using large rectangular 30-gallon or 40-gallon (in one case,
200 gallon) plastic-walled wells, divided in the center by a commercial
laboratory-quality PTFE fabric membrane on rigid plastic screening, and
using massive parallel platinum/titanium electrodes, with up to 210 vDC
as the ionizing current. Of course, this massive DC voltage could
kill or maim someone in an instant, so massive and multi-layered automatic
safety disconnects are needed to protect the operator during those "thoughtless"
moments which we all experience.
Example: I once, at age 13, grabbed
a hot power supply wire (in my UHF radio research laboratory) carrying
+1,400 vDC [at up to 1 ampere continuous] with my right hand, while holding
a grounded metal bar with my left hand. It almost killed me.
I simply was not paying attention!
If you decide to use voltages over
24 vDC, please be CAREFUL!
YES, PLEASE BE VERY CAREFUL!
One above-mentioned friend who has built
massive batch water ionizers almost died as a result of a massive shock
received when he accidentally grabbed the two wet and HOT electrodes with
his bare wet (salted water) hands, and spent months with painful burns
as a result. Fortunately, he fell (was thrown) backwards by the convulsive
effect on his arms, and the force pulled the DC power cables out of the
power supplies, disconnecting the current as his head hit the floor and
he was knocked unconscious (for 20 minutes). Now, 10 years later,
he has some serious cardiac arrythmias as a result of damage to his heart
from the current.
The 0.35 grams of NaCl per gallon of
H20: about 1/4 to 1/3 of a 1/8th teaspoon kitchen measuring spoon.
I usually try to find something like a tiny spoon which holds about 350
mg, to make it easy to shovel out the salt.
ORP and curves. As I recall,
ORP is a semi-logarithmic scale, and each change of 59 mv in ORP indicates
a 10-fold change in free electrons (antioxidant power), and each 118 mv
change indicates a 100-fold change. This is all based on the Nernst
equation (for redox) and the work of derivative authors since then who
have modified the Nernst equation. I have an Excel sheet somewhere
showing all this ORP versus free-electrons relationship.
By the way, I was an EE at one time
in my life, but have switched careers many times since then.
The above topic leads us to... . . .
Notes on Some Commercial Laboratory
Hydrogen Generators Which Use Electrolysis
I have in my laboratory a commerical
($9,000 new) hydrogen generator which uses a pressurized electrolytic well
(heavily-doped water in a special mesh polymer electrode, constantly refilled
under high pressure via high-pressure pump from a water reservoir) to produce
the pressurized hydrogen gas, and it uses for the electrolyzing current
a 24-volt DC supply which can source 38 amperes continuously. Phew!
This monster produces about 300 ml per minute of hydrogen gas, at up to
120 psi above ambient atmospheric pressure.
I have in my lab another ($11,000 new)
commercial hydrogen generator which uses pure platinum coaxial electrodes
in a coaxial bath of heavily-doped (sodium hydroxide) water. The
H gas percolates thru the central hollow negative platinum electrode to
escape into a central tube and, after filtering, supplies pressurized hydrogen
gas at up to 100 psi above atmospheric. Runs 24 volts DC at about 17 amps.
Some General Questions and Answers
About Reduced Water and the Physics Thereof
You asked:
Could you tell me what does the H-
ion looks like? To be negative it must have one proton and two electrons,
right? How can it be stable?
My answer:
The H-minus ion is a proton with 2
electrons, and, as related on my website, it was previously thought that
it primarily existed in stable form at high temperatures in plasmas (you
know, super heated gases which are radiant) and in stars. It was
thought that its half-life at STP on earth's surface was only on the order
of femtoseconds, due to reactivity. However -- and there is more
on my H-minus website about this -- it has been discovered that apparently
singlet H and H-minus can indeed be stable at STP in the biosphere, in
any of several ways (see my website). In the water, it appears that
the H- forms clusters or cages of water around it, forming structured but
amorphous water clusters, and that the cages protect it until a biological
molecule wants the electron.
In silica (as in MegaHydrin™
) and certain other molecules which are already in a particular amorphous
crystalline configuration, H-minus can also exist and remain protected
for a long time in stable form, forming a hydride known as a metallic dielectric
interstitial hydride, whereas the really reactive and nasty hydrides such
as LiH and CaH store H-minus as a metallic interstitial hydride.
Question: As you generate high negative
ORP what happens to the pH level in the alkaline
water?
Well, electrolysis of water is only
one of several ways to create reduced water high in H-minus ions and their
associated water cages or clusters, and with extremely negative ORP, and
it is about the only method which might involve significant shift
of pH to the strongly alkaline region due to concentration of alkaline
mineral ions. (The other methods are largely proprietary, and I can reveal
little further information about them. However, to tantalize you
and perhaps tease your mind into making some intuitive shifts, I
can tell you that I have in my kitchen (and more in my lab) an ordinary
1/2 gallon amber jug, with no electrical or electronic devices attached
at all. I add tap water with an ORP of perhaps +390 to the jug, and the
next morning, the water has an ORP of -220, and tests reveal that the water
has strong reducing powers, which is really a better indicator of presence
of the H-minus ion than is ORP alone.) To learn moe about non-electricalmeans
of producing RW, you may wishto see my page on this site entitled Means
and Methods of Modifying the ORP and Particularly, the Reducing Potential,
of Water
Nonetheless, when performing electrolysis
to produce "ionized" electrolyzed reduced water (ERW), the shift to alkaline
pH of the reduced water is essentially an accidental corollary, and not
inextricably linked to concentration of H-minus ions. Having said
that, in general it is true that pH continues to increase as we drive the
ORP of the reduced water more and more into the negative region when reducing
water via electrolysis. For example, I have here several devices
which produce electrolyzed reduced water (ERW) with an ORP of about -830
mv. (some even ranging to -920 mv.), and at an ORP of -830, the pH usually
measures in the range of 11.2 to 12.2. However, see notes below for
further information on this!
Question: ie at -150mv the Ph may be
around 8.5 as the ORP increases; what is the correlation , ie does
the pH just continue or does it stabilise?
Answer:
Increases only slowly.
See text and examples above. Further, if this high pH were an issue of
concern, one could find ways of scavenging the metal (Zn, Ca, Na, Mg, etc.)
ions which are producing the high pH, if desired, or of neutralizing them.
Question: If so how does the water reach
a saturation point with the Ph and continue to increase the ORP in the
negative direction. I am missing the link between how the Ph increases
( I believe it has to do with the mineral content in the water to start
with ) and the ORP is splitting of OH- as more electrons are introduced
into the water through the electrolysis process?
Answer:
In "traditional" electrolysis of water
through a membrane to produce reduced water, it is commonly believed that
the pH increases due to a concentration of the ions of certain minerals
(Ca, Mg, Zn, etc.) which are produced and then trapped in the reducing
cell by the membrane.
Question: The reason I am asking this
is that if the pH does increase with increasing
negative ORP then it cann't be beneficial
to drink water with a very high
pH, even though the ORP is highly negative.
Answer:
For most people, it does not seem to
be an issue. The pH is really not that serious an issue, even for
human consumption, as there are several factors to consider:
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the pH of most such reduced water is what
is called "poorly buffered" -- it has little "staying power" or "resilience",
and is relatively fragile; it will drop easily when it hits organic material
such as GI tract contents
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pH is a logarithmic scale, while, if I
recall correctly, ORP is a semi-logarithmic scale, so, even with conventional
water ionizer technology, the pH does NOT increase as quickly as ORP changes
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perhaps you are letting high pH numbers
in the 11 or 12 region scare you. To add perspective, please consider
that humans regularly consume liquids which exhibit an acidic pH every
bit as far removed from neutral pH (7.0) as the alkalinity of even strongly
electrolyzed reduced water. For example, some commercial cola
drinks exhibit a pH of about 2.0, which is 5 units below neutral pH (7.0),
and some of these cola drinks exhibit a pH which is much more strongly
buffered than the alkaline pH of most ERW. Please remember that some
folks in Western societies consume a gallon or more of such liquids daily,
without much immediate obvious ill effect. I am told that the same
(acidic pH phenomena) is true of some black coffee drinks and a few other
commercially-available drinks as well.
I have friends who regularly drink 1/2
gallon or more daily of undiluted ERW with an ORP of -825 and a pH of about
11.9 to 12.0.
Question: I was reading about your souped-up
Jupiter Technos ionizer and am interested in building a
unit to produce some water with an
ORP in the range of -700 to -900mv. We don't have any machines in the country
that can do this that are available to buy. Those that we can import are
far too expensive and out of our price range so we are going to have a
go at making our own. Do you have any more
notes on the finer detail of how you
went about modifying the Jupiter. This will allow us to do some experimenting
of our own. Then we can set the record straight in our own minds.
Answer:
What country are you in? In the USA,
one can buy (see my website for the link to Ion and Light in SF) a Japanese
Super Oxide Labo for about $1,600, and it will produce over 1/2 gallon
each batch of highly reduced water with an ORP of -831. The smaller
Super Oxide Mini sells for about $1,200. I recently sold one in slightly-used
condition for $600.
I souped up the Jupiter Technos (I have
mentioned some of this on the website) and created a new system by:
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adding ventilation holes and a muffin cooling
fan to the cabinet to prevent overheating
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switching the water input from the flow
diverter on the faucet to a 6-gallon reservoir (easily refilled by hose
or bucket) which holds water which has had sea salt added at the rate of
0.10 g/liter.
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a valve at the bottom of the reservoir
feeds a laboratory-quality digitally controlled metering pump (cost $1,000)
which can precisely regulate the water flow to the Jupiter from 0.01 gallons
per minute to 20 gallons per minute.
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here is also a variety of check valves,
flow control valves, and many feet of vinyl tubing.
I originally tried using a cheaper pump
and a cheap plumber's pressure valve, but was driven to distraction by
the pressure fluctuations of the system and finally reverted to the metering
pump.
With this device, I can produce strong
ERW (ORP of -800 mv.) at the rate of about 2 gallons per minute.
Unfortunately, if you read my description
of what I did to the Jupiter Technos closely, you will see that the total
cost is about $2,000, which is well more than the purchase price for a
Super Oxide Labo commercial batch water ionizer (about $1,600). Further,
it takes up a good part of my kitchen and kitchen wall, and looks like
a Rube Goldberg invention.
Question: Do you recommend any tests
that we should have done with our blood etc
prior to us testing the effectsof ERW
our health?
Answer:
Don't know anything about blood or
anything, don't know about tests either.
Question: Also what do you think of
the "Ultra-Super Water Filter" on the market. They are trying to discredit
the water ionizers on the market. Do they have any merit in what
they are saying?
Answer:
Some of the folks pushing distilled
water and hyper-clean water regularly knock tap water, well water and ionized
water, and in fact, all water except their distilled water. That
is their business. Use your mind, heart and intuition and make your
own choices. I cannot and will not do this for you.
Question: A question for you.
If water contains Silica Hydride (as well as Potassium, Calcium and Magnesium)
would this hide/disguise the true negative ORP potential of the water?
Your answer would be appreciated.
Answer:
You have asked a fascinating question.
Why? Well, here goes:
First, when you say "silica hydride",
do you mean:
1) the silica hydride
which was know only to primarily industrial chemists until now, and which
is a rather reactive gas, which is an interstitial metallic hydride
OR
2) the substance developed by
Patrick Flanagan which also bears the same name, but which is a solid in
a small colloidal form, and which is an interstitial dielectric hydride,
and has really been recognized by the scientific community in the past
19 months, and acknowledged in the scientific literature as being a real
dielectric hydride with antioxidant nutritional properties?
Second, the only "silica hydride"
of the latter type (2) above available to consumers is already "charged"
with the negative hydrogen ion, and thus, when exposed to water, will slowly
start releasing it to maintain ionic equilibrium and gas pressure equilibrium
(basic laws of physics and chemistry). When silica hydride (type
2) is depleted of the h-minus ion, then it is no longer silica hydride,
but silica in a colloidal form, with perhaps a small amount of calcium,
magnesium and other trace substances present as well.
So, if the silica hydride it truly the
stuff mentioned as Type 2 above, then it will tend to DONATE H- ions to
the surrounding aqueous environment (if any), unless the ORP of water,
due to the H-minus ion and H-singlet forms, is WEAKER (smaller negative
ORP) than the equilibrium point for "fresh" silica hydride, which is about
-880 mv.
However, if the ORP (due to H-minus
ion and H-singlet forms) of a surrounding aqueous environment is STRONGER
(larger negative ORP) than the equilibrium point of silca hydride, then
conceivably the silica hydride might accumulate even more of the H-minus
ion, thus depleting the ORP.
Of course, if you put "depleted" silica
hydride, which is really now only silica in colloidal form (in a special
buckeyball state) in water which has a strongly negative ORP due to presence
of H-ion and singlet atomic H (rather than a strongly negative ORP due
to dissolved H2 gas, which is also a possibility), then the nano-colloidal
silica , if certain other conditions are met, will start to "grab" some
of the free H- ions and slowly, molecules of nano-colloidal silica
will be converted to silica hydride (type 2).
So, FINALLY, the answer to your question,
bearing in mind the qualifications above, is:
NO, silica hydride (type 2), when present
in water, will not usually mask the true negative ORP of water, but rather,
will contribute strongly to making the water even more reduced (more strongly
negative ORP). Further, however, the silica hydride (type 2), will
tend to act as a "reservoir" of H-ion, thus serving to "replenish" or "recharge"
the strongly negative ORP of the water (or drive it even more negative),
until the H-ion in the silica hydride is depleted or "used up".
Question: (next, the above writer asked.
. . . .)
The reason I have asked the previous
question is that we are getting some very amazing results with our water
product, reduced to a 43 dyne average surface tension, yet with an ORP
from 130 to +50 or so depending on source.
Darkfield (blood profile analysis)
and tradition blood antioxidant tests, indicates that our water product
is a very strong antioxidant.
Answer:
First, tell me what you mean by "our
water product", and next, it is highly possible for water with even a high
ORP to have strong clustering properties which would reduce the surface
tension, although less likely than for water with a more reducing ORP.
As far as the antioxidant possibilities
of "your water product ", here are some points to consider:
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improved results on darkfield analysis
do not necessarily mean anything in terms of antioxidant properties (indeed,
according to the scientific literature, it does not mean tat at all!)
Rather, such darkfield results will usually reflect the "clustering" and/or
electrostatic properties of a product.
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QUESTION: what specifically do you mean
by "tradition blood antioxidant tests". You would need to be able to document
assays performed with traditional chemical and biochemical tests to assess
antioxidant activity before you could make such a claim. You
will note that Patrick Flanagan, who developed MegaHydrin™
, spent a long time working with scientists in private and university laboratories
to thoroughly document the antioxidant properties of MegaHydrin™
via traditional test of antioxidant activity in both chemical and biochemical
life-related realms. These tests even included protection of cells
in vitro against strong oxidizer insults, and the successful conversion
of NAD to NADH by MegaHydrin™ . This is all available
in literature available to the public.
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Likewise, the scientists in Japan who studied
the antioxidant properties of ERW conducted numerous scientific tests
using standard assays of antioxidant activity in both chemical and life-oriented
biochemical reactions.
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a product does not need to have a strongly
negative ORP to have nutritional antioxidant properties in biochemical
systems. Witness vitamin C, vitamin E, beta carotene, citric acid,
and a host of other bio substances with higher molecular weights.
Indeed, a number of these substances named herein show a pretty strongly
positive ORP, and yet, in certain specific biochemical situations, will
indeed donate an electron to a molecule ( a free radical) needing one.
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Conversely, a strongly negative ORP does
not necessarily say anything at all about antioxidant properties. It is
OFTEN correlated to antioxidant properties, but not always. Some
examples follow:
1) If you bubble hydrogen gas
(H2) from a tank through water, the ORP will drop to about -690 or even
further. However, any standard assay of chemical or biochemical antioxidant
properties will show ZERO antioxidant activity.
2) On the other hand, ERW ionized
water and water containing MegaHydrin not only show a strongly negative
ORP, but also strong antioxidant effects in both chemical and biochemical
(life-type) reactions
3) bear in mind that an ORP in
the range of +50 to +150, as you cite, still indicates that there may be
some a modest quantity of H-ions present (or, of course, dissolved H2 gas),
and if so, will indeed be able to exhibit some antioxidant properties.
If, on the other hand, the low positive ORP is due to dissolved H2 gas,
then there will be little in the way of free H- ions, and little antioxidant
activity.
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Just as some substances with strongly positive
ORP are highly toxic (witness chlorine bleach and hydrogen peroxide), so
it is true that some substances with strongly negative ORP are toxic as
well. For example, dissolve sodium hydroxide in water (CAREFULLY!
or YOU WILL BE BURNED OR BLINDED!), and the ORP becomes modestly negative,
but yet it is toxic due to its alkalinity. Another great example
is lithium hydride. This substance shows a strongly negative ORP,
and yet is incredibly toxic.
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the ORP correlation with antioxidant activity
tends, among other limitations and qualifications, to apply only to substances
with very small molecular weight. Thus, water and the negative hydrogen
ion may be in the ballpark, but larger molecules with molecular weight
in the hundreds or thousands (vitamin C, vitamin E, citric acid, beta carotene,
alpha lipoic acid, pycogenol) hold onto their free electron in another
way, and so it is no apparent or available in a simple aqueous solution.
Lastly, in light of your earlier letter,
some further comments on silica hydride of the type (let's call it SHD2)
found in MegaHydrin™ :
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SHD2 is incredibly hard to make.
No one in the world has succeeded other than Patrick Flanagan (who is admittedly
a genius as well as being highly intuitive), although some Japanese scientists
at major universities in Japan have spent millions of dollars trying to
do so.. Not only do the particles of SHD2 have a very small (nano)
size, but they have a unique new buckeyball structure, never before seen
in silica, which allows them to grab h-ions and store them.
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normal silica, including commonly available
silica products such as the various colloidal silicas available from industrial
vendors, do NOT exhibit any of the properties of Patrick Flanagan's nano-colloidal
silica. Normally available commercial silica does not have any nano-colloidal
properties nor a buckeyball structure, nor will it uptake h-minus-ions
in a reversible fashion as dielectric hydride. Thus, if you take
normal colloidal silica, or even silica in any other form, whether from
a health food store shelf, or from an industrial supplier, you cannot get
it to store H-minus ion reversibly as Flanagan has done with SHD2.
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anyone wishing to claim in either the health
food or scientific arena that their product does include silica hydride
of the form which I reference as SHD2, would need to be able to fully substantiate
their claim with lab tests from independent physical chemistry laboratories,
and those tests would need to include: NMR, ESR, assay with negative ion
electrodes, electron microscopy to demonstrate the buckeyball nature and
nano-colloidal size, along with the antioxidant assays mentioned earlier.
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I have encountered some folks who have
purchased commercialy available colloidal silica (the type used in the
foods industry for packaging), mixed it with traces of potassium, magnesium
and calcium (likely because they also saw these ingredients listed along
with colloidal silica on the label of a bottle of MegaHydrin™
!), and then assumed that this somehow "created" silica hydride, of the
type which I reference above as SHD2 (the one marketed by Patrick Flanagan
as Megahydrin®.)
I suspect that you have some kind of water
product which you are trying to prove has antioxidant activity. My
point is that your product may well have some beneficial properties (which
you can demonstrate via appropriate tests, both in vitro and in vivo),
but those beneficial properties may not be antioxidant activity, but rather
in other realms entirely. Those realms can include:
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clustering with beneficial cluster size
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reduced surface tension of water
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removal of certain toxins from water
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presence of solvated electrons
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presence of free hydrated cluster electrons
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presence of any of several beneficial "subtle
energies"
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presence of any of a number of beneficial
substance such as vitamins or minerals, but you have indicated that your
water is relatively free of things other than water, so... . .
(end of my reply to the person
who inquired)
Non-Electrolytic Means of Producing
Reduced Water (RW)
Now, a teaser: there are actually NUMEROUS
other ways of creating H-minus ions in water, and without electricity/electrolysis,
and often without the artificial corrollary of high alkalinity as well.
These methods yield water commonly referred to as "reduced water", or RW.
However, many of these methods really cannot get the H-minus concentration
to a place where the resultant ORP is much stronger than -300 mv.
There are a few that can go much further.
The Magic Jugs
There is one means I might mention....
I have some proprietary and developmental "Magic Jugs" here in my laboratory
and in my kitchen, which use no electricity at all, and no complicated
devices. These are amber glass 1/2 gallon jugs, with a special active
substance in the bottom. I fill the jugs with tap water (non-chlorinated),
and in 24 hours, I have reduced water (RW) with an ORP of -435 or lower.
If you wish to learn more about the magic jugs, please click
here to go to a page on this site with more details.
If you wish to know more about this
topic in general, you may wish to check out my page on this site entitled
Means and Methods
of Modifying the ORP and Particularly, the Reducing Potential, of Water
On Breathing Gas Enriched With the
H-minus Ion
I created a device a few years ago which
allowed me to breathe, as 8% of my air intake, a mixture of H2 and H-minus
gas (the H-minus gas was stabilized in a gaseous cage via a proprietary
method.). If I breathed the mix for about 20 minutes, being careful
to avoid sparks (coulda been an explosion!), the effects were very interesting,
and included a sense of well-being. Three hours later, the ORP of my urine
was in the -450 mv range. Ten hours later, it was still at -380 mv.
I know only one other person who has been foolhardy enough to do this experiment;
he is a fellow researcher and very wild.
MegaHydrin™ is a
registered trademark owned by Flantech Group.
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